Terminal Services and Exchange 2003

[Steve Gordon]

Hi

First of all, is this the best group to be sending therse questions to?

We are taking over a client with 2 offices in the UK, each office has a
W2003K server which everybody accesses via TS sessions from within the
building.
When they are out of the office they connect to their own servers IE which
offers them a web based TS session and this works fine. The users do from
time to time have need to be in the ‘other’ office and still connect back to
their own server.
Outlook is used extensively. The company has no Exchange server as they use
their current ISP’s Exchange system.
We are planning on installing Exchange to their most capable server and all
users to access this.
There are between 5-7 users at each office.
2003 Server and Exchange are standard editions.

My questions are:
1. How can we setup TS to be visible from a webpage?
2. Is having MS office installed on a 2003 server with 2003 Exchange a
supported configuration from Microsoft?

Regards

Steve Gordon

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

* You can NOT run Outlook on the same server as Exchange
* to run rdp sessions through Internet explorer, you need an IIS
and install the Remote Desktop Web Connection:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/
standard/proddocs/en-us/rdesktop_install_webcli.asp?frame=true

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/termserv/termserv/remote_desktop_web_connection.asp

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Vera Noest
MCSE,CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
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Post by Steve Gordon
Hi
First of all, is this the best group to be sending therse
questions to?
We are taking over a client with 2 offices in the UK, each
office has a W2003K server which everybody accesses via TS
sessions from within the building.
When they are out of the office they connect to their own
servers IE which offers them a web based TS session and this
works fine. The users do from time to time have need to be in
the ‘other’ office and still connect back to their own
server. Outlook is used extensively. The company has no Exchange
server as they use their current ISP’s Exchange system.
We are planning on installing Exchange to their most capable
server and all users to access this.
There are between 5-7 users at each office.
2003 Server and Exchange are standard editions.
1. How can we setup TS to be visible from a webpage?
2. Is having MS office installed on a 2003 server with 2003
Exchange a supported configuration from Microsoft?
Regards
Steve Gordon

[Steve Gordon]

Hi Vera

Is there a Microsoft page somewhere that says why Outlook and Exchange must
not be run on the same server, as I will need to justify this to our client?

The info on the Remote Desktop Connection is great, thanks.

As a general questions, I take it that it is fine to run all the rest of MS
office on the server with Exchange?

It looks to me as if OWA will be the answer at any time the users need to
access Outlook info from the server when they are out of the office?

Thanks

Steve

Post by Vera Noest [MVP]
* You can NOT run Outlook on the same server as Exchange
* to run rdp sessions through Internet explorer, you need an IIS
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/
standard/proddocs/en-us/rdesktop_install_webcli.asp?frame=true
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/termserv/termserv/remote_desktop_web_connection.asp
--
Vera Noest
MCSE,CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
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Post by Steve Gordon
Hi
First of all, is this the best group to be sending therse
questions to?
We are taking over a client with 2 offices in the UK, each
office has a W2003K server which everybody accesses via TS
sessions from within the building.
When they are out of the office they connect to their own
servers IE which offers them a web based TS session and this
works fine. The users do from time to time have need to be in
the ‘other’ office and still connect back to their own
server. Outlook is used extensively. The company has no Exchange
server as they use their current ISP’s Exchange system.
We are planning on installing Exchange to their most capable
server and all users to access this.
There are between 5-7 users at each office.
2003 Server and Exchange are standard editions.
1. How can we setup TS to be visible from a webpage?
2. Is having MS office installed on a 2003 server with 2003
Exchange a supported configuration from Microsoft?
Regards
Steve Gordon

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

As a general rule: an Exchange Server should be just that and
nothing else.
And the same is even more true for a Terminal Server: it should be
a dedicated server. This is both for security and performance
reasons.

Keep in mind that a Terminal Server is just a multi-user
workstation. You wouldn't want normal users to use the console of
your Exchange Server as their personal workstation, and that's
exactly what they will be doing when you combine TS with Exchange.

That said, I realize that it is not always possible for small
offices to have a dedicated servers for every server function.
But you are putting yourself in a situation where the official
documentation not always applies, because it is simply not
discussed.
I have no idea if the rest of Office (without Outlook) can be run
on a TS which is also an Exchange server.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
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Post by Steve Gordon
Hi Vera
Is there a Microsoft page somewhere that says why Outlook and
Exchange must not be run on the same server, as I will need to
justify this to our client?
The info on the Remote Desktop Connection is great, thanks.
As a general questions, I take it that it is fine to run all the
rest of MS office on the server with Exchange?
It looks to me as if OWA will be the answer at any time the
users need to access Outlook info from the server when they are
out of the office?
Thanks
Steve

Post by Vera Noest [MVP]
* You can NOT run Outlook on the same server as Exchange
* to run rdp sessions through Internet explorer, you need an
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/200
3/
standard/proddocs/en-us/rdesktop_install_webcli.asp?frame=true
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/termserv/termserv/remote_desktop_web_connection.asp
--
Vera Noest
MCSE,CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
=?Utf-8?B?U3RldmUgR29yZG9u?=

Post by Steve Gordon
Hi
First of all, is this the best group to be sending therse
questions to?
We are taking over a client with 2 offices in the UK, each
office has a W2003K server which everybody accesses via TS
sessions from within the building.
When they are out of the office they connect to their own
servers IE which offers them a web based TS session and this
works fine. The users do from time to time have need to be in
the ‘other’ office and still connect back to
their own server. Outlook is used extensively. The company
has no Exchange server as they use their current ISP’s
Exchange system. We are planning on installing Exchange to
their most capable server and all users to access this.
There are between 5-7 users at each office.
2003 Server and Exchange are standard editions.
1. How can we setup TS to be visible from a webpage?
2. Is having MS office installed on a 2003 server with 2003
Exchange a supported configuration from Microsoft?
Regards
Steve Gordon

[Patrick Rouse]

Outlook 2003 & Exchange 2003 should never be running on the same machine
because they use different versions of mapi32.dll.
--
Patrick Rouse
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://www.workthin.com

Post by Vera Noest [MVP]
As a general rule: an Exchange Server should be just that and
nothing else.
And the same is even more true for a Terminal Server: it should be
a dedicated server. This is both for security and performance
reasons.
Keep in mind that a Terminal Server is just a multi-user
workstation. You wouldn't want normal users to use the console of
your Exchange Server as their personal workstation, and that's
exactly what they will be doing when you combine TS with Exchange.
That said, I realize that it is not always possible for small
offices to have a dedicated servers for every server function.
But you are putting yourself in a situation where the official
documentation not always applies, because it is simply not
discussed.
I have no idea if the rest of Office (without Outlook) can be run
on a TS which is also an Exchange server.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
=?Utf-8?B?U3RldmUgR29yZG9u?=

Post by Steve Gordon
Hi Vera
Is there a Microsoft page somewhere that says why Outlook and
Exchange must not be run on the same server, as I will need to
justify this to our client?
The info on the Remote Desktop Connection is great, thanks.
As a general questions, I take it that it is fine to run all the
rest of MS office on the server with Exchange?
It looks to me as if OWA will be the answer at any time the
users need to access Outlook info from the server when they are
out of the office?
Thanks
Steve

Post by Vera Noest [MVP]
* You can NOT run Outlook on the same server as Exchange
* to run rdp sessions through Internet explorer, you need an
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/200
3/
standard/proddocs/en-us/rdesktop_install_webcli.asp?frame=true
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/termserv/termserv/remote_desktop_web_connection.asp
--
Vera Noest
MCSE,CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
=?Utf-8?B?U3RldmUgR29yZG9u?=

Post by Steve Gordon
Hi
First of all, is this the best group to be sending therse
questions to?
We are taking over a client with 2 offices in the UK, each
office has a W2003K server which everybody accesses via TS
sessions from within the building.
When they are out of the office they connect to their own
servers IE which offers them a web based TS session and this
works fine. The users do from time to time have need to be in
the ‘other’ office and still connect back to
their own server. Outlook is used extensively. The company
has no Exchange server as they use their current ISP’s
Exchange system. We are planning on installing Exchange to
their most capable server and all users to access this.
There are between 5-7 users at each office.
2003 Server and Exchange are standard editions.
1. How can we setup TS to be visible from a webpage?
2. Is having MS office installed on a 2003 server with 2003
Exchange a supported configuration from Microsoft?
Regards
Steve Gordon