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RDC win2003 server
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Larry
2005-06-10 13:06:02 UTC
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I am using RDC to manage the servers on our network. The guys that installed
the system seem to have installed terminal services but no licensing server.
Now after 120 days i can only use RDC using the console, as its asking for
the terminal services licensing server. Is there anyway we can carry on
using RDC normally? I dont want to uninstall terminal services.
Vera Noest [MVP]
2005-06-10 21:13:44 UTC
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This server is running Windows 2003, right?
Which level of functionality do you want?
If you only want Remote Desktop for Administration, then the people
who installed the system made the MFM (Most Frequent Mistake :-) to
install Terminal Services (which implies Application Server mode).
That was how it was done on Windows 2000, but not on 2003.
In stead, they should just have enabled Remote Desktop for
Administration, in Control Panel - System - Remote, just like on
XP. This allows for a maximum of 2 + 1 concurrent connections, by
default only for Administrators, no extra licensing requirements.
The only thing you can do now to go back to Remote Desktop fA is to
completely uninstall Terminal Services.

If you need Terminal Services (i.e. multiple users accessing the
server to run their applications on it), then you need to install a
Terminal Services Licensing Server (either on the same server or on
another 2003 server), activate it, buy licenses, and install them
on the LS.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
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Post by Larry
I am using RDC to manage the servers on our network. The guys
that installed the system seem to have installed terminal
services but no licensing server. Now after 120 days i can only
use RDC using the console, as its asking for the terminal
services licensing server. Is there anyway we can carry on
using RDC normally? I dont want to uninstall terminal services.
Larry
2005-06-11 08:36:01 UTC
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Server is running 2003, and i just want to use it for remote admin. We have
to connect to the console remotely at the mo and as there are 4 technicians
we sometimes end up disconnecting each other. I guessed we need to unistall
terminal services, but as there is so much running on that server i am
reluctant to touch it. I am worried that uninstalling it will affect other
apps on the server.

Thanks for the help
Post by Vera Noest [MVP]
This server is running Windows 2003, right?
Which level of functionality do you want?
If you only want Remote Desktop for Administration, then the people
who installed the system made the MFM (Most Frequent Mistake :-) to
install Terminal Services (which implies Application Server mode).
That was how it was done on Windows 2000, but not on 2003.
In stead, they should just have enabled Remote Desktop for
Administration, in Control Panel - System - Remote, just like on
XP. This allows for a maximum of 2 + 1 concurrent connections, by
default only for Administrators, no extra licensing requirements.
The only thing you can do now to go back to Remote Desktop fA is to
completely uninstall Terminal Services.
If you need Terminal Services (i.e. multiple users accessing the
server to run their applications on it), then you need to install a
Terminal Services Licensing Server (either on the same server or on
another 2003 server), activate it, buy licenses, and install them
on the LS.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
Post by Larry
I am using RDC to manage the servers on our network. The guys
that installed the system seem to have installed terminal
services but no licensing server. Now after 120 days i can only
use RDC using the console, as its asking for the terminal
services licensing server. Is there anyway we can carry on
using RDC normally? I dont want to uninstall terminal services.
Vera Noest [MVP]
2005-06-11 12:27:19 UTC
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Yes, uninstalling Terminal Services does have some risks.
And since you are 4 technicians using rdp, you could choose to keep
the server as it is, but then you must install a TS Licensing
Server and buy 4 TS CALs. Note: most likely, Per User TS CALs would
be most convenient in this situation, since technicians tend to
connect from many different workstations.

The biggest disadvantage of this setup is that the server is
internally tuned to be a multi-user Terminal Server. This can have
a negative impact on the performance of other applications (like
Exchange, SQL, and so on).
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
Post by Larry
Server is running 2003, and i just want to use it for remote
admin. We have to connect to the console remotely at the mo and
as there are 4 technicians we sometimes end up disconnecting
each other. I guessed we need to unistall terminal services,
but as there is so much running on that server i am reluctant to
touch it. I am worried that uninstalling it will affect other
apps on the server.
Thanks for the help
Post by Vera Noest [MVP]
This server is running Windows 2003, right?
Which level of functionality do you want?
If you only want Remote Desktop for Administration, then the
people who installed the system made the MFM (Most Frequent
Mistake :-) to install Terminal Services (which implies
Application Server mode). That was how it was done on Windows
2000, but not on 2003. In stead, they should just have enabled
Remote Desktop for Administration, in Control Panel - System -
Remote, just like on XP. This allows for a maximum of 2 + 1
concurrent connections, by default only for Administrators, no
extra licensing requirements. The only thing you can do now to
go back to Remote Desktop fA is to completely uninstall
Terminal Services.
If you need Terminal Services (i.e. multiple users accessing
the server to run their applications on it), then you need to
install a Terminal Services Licensing Server (either on the
same server or on another 2003 server), activate it, buy
licenses, and install them on the LS.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
Post by Larry
I am using RDC to manage the servers on our network. The
guys that installed the system seem to have installed
terminal services but no licensing server. Now after 120
days i can only use RDC using the console, as its asking for
the terminal services licensing server. Is there anyway we
can carry on using RDC normally? I dont want to uninstall
terminal services.
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